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    Going to wudang

    Hi I am going to wudang to train on May 10 to June 1 with my girlfriend.I know people talked about going to train and never post their experience on the forum.Can anybody give me more information about the school in wudang .I am training for 34 days at wudang and touring the rest of china going to emishan ,sanya ,beijing, gulin,and shanghi.So any other info on these places regurding martial arts .I will give a report on my return to Canada about my training.We are hardcore martial artists and will be in shape to train.Thank you
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    Check out some archive threads

    Here's on on the Internal forum.
    Here's another on the training forum.
    There are probably more, but you'd have to really dig through the archives to find them.

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    Going to Wudang to train Gong fu with your girlfriend?!

    ...sounds like paradise...

    Have fun pops.
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    Thanks for all your responses more info would be nice.I always want more knowledge.I am pumped about training and hope to find a great teacher.Lots of teachers want to share knowledge with a student who is not ther own nationality because in China many people think you are crazy if you love to do kungfu.anyways keep the info flowing may the rainbows shine and cover your body.Pops

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    Nowadays, shaolin temple and mount wudang are deeply commercialized. Authentic shaolin and wudang kungfu are advertisements slogan used to attract customers.

    Foreigners are all greatly welcome to go learnt the kungfu cos they paid more.

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    Jake Pinnick

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    The kung fu way: Jake Pinnick’s journey from small-town America to China’s Wudang Mountains
    The 30-year-old left Kewanee in Illinois on a whim in 2010 to immerse himself in Chinese culture
    He now lives in the Wudang Mountains in Hubei province, with his wife and daughter, and hopes one day to bring Wudang martial arts to America
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    Jake Pinnick left Illinois to find himself, and ended up in China’s Wudang Mountains practising kung fu and Daoism. Photo: Handout
    American Jake Pinnick hails from a small town in the state of Illinois called Kewanee.
    It’s a perfect slice of Middle America, with fewer than 13,000 residents in a farming community about two and a half-hour’s drive west from Chicago.
    Pinnick said when he told friends and family he wanted to go to the Wudang Daoist Traditional Kungfu Academy in China to train martial arts, the response was typical.
    “I don’t think anyone really believed me,” said the 30-year-old. “No one really laughed at it, they were interested, but they didn’t really know what to ask, because it was so different. It’s not a usual thing to say, but it is pretty normal for kids to want to get out of a place like [Kewanee]. Most kids say something like they want to move to Hollywood and become an actor.”

    American becomes martial arts master in China’s central Wudang Mountains

    Pinnick had found the academy’s website, which was offering a five-year programme for foreigners, and after saving up money working two jobs, he got his visa, passport and booked a one-way ticket in May of 2010. He said the reason he wanted to go was simple – a love for kung fu of course – but he was also searching for deeper meaning when it came to life and philosophy.
    “When I first thought about it, it was daydreaming for myself,” he said. “I was like ‘I’ll just send [the academy] an email just for fun’ and I didn’t really believe it myself either. I could travel, learn something new, challenge myself, get some discipline, find a way to be healthy, lots of different answers to questions I had.”

    Jake Pinnick, who lives in the Wudang Mountains, said leaving the US some 12 years ago was necessary for him to find himself. Photo: Handout
    However, Pinnick’s trip to China was anything but smooth as a young 20-year-old who had never travelled outside the US. He ended up taking four flights, missing two of them, lost his luggage and ended up in Wuhan tired and dehydrated. From there he made his way to the Wudang Mountains via train, bus and taxi.
    “It was intense. I didn’t speak any Chinese. It was quite the adventure just getting there.”
    Once he found himself at the academy, Pinnick said acclimatising was softened by other foreigners who were in the area and a part of the school. They started teaching him Mandarin, showed him where to get groceries and all the best noodle shops. Pinnick said getting used to the way of life was surprisingly easy given the peaceful and serene nature to it.
    The Wudang Mountains are a famous geographical range in the northwest part of Hubei province known for Taoist temples, monasteries and as the birthplace of tai chi. The area also has a deep history with traditional martial arts, and kung fu in particular, the most famous being the Shaolin kung fu, which is still regularly referenced in popular culture.

    Jake Pinnick soon after leaving the US for China in 2010. Photo: Handout
    Pinnick said after a while, he found himself more at home in Wudang than he ever felt back home in America. He said locals were more than welcoming and willing to engage.
    “The culture shock wasn’t that bad. Surprisingly, I find I have more of that going back to America now … learning the language did take some time, but everyone around the school was familiar with foreigners so we had a lot of fun speaking broken English and Chinese back and forth at the start.”
    After he settled into a routine, Pinnick set about immersing himself in Chinese culture, including martial arts training. He also gravitated towards Daoism, a philosophical tradition most well known for the yin-yang symbol and the idea of living in harmony with the universe.
    Pinnick said he had to go home after the first six months and instantly wanted to return to China, feeling if it had now become his home more than America, and he had begun a process of rewriting himself as a person overseas.

    Jake Pinnick has even taken up the Xiao, a traditional Chinese bamboo flute. Photo: Handout
    “Everything fit and it felt like something was really challenging and helped me grow quite a lot really fast. And as cliché as it is, it helps you find yourself … I feel like this is a typical response. You can feel like you inherit your life, especially in the Midwest in America, you can inherit your belief structure, you can inherit your job, you can inherit your house, from material to metaphysical to philosophical to religious, it almost feels like copy and paste. And, for me, I wanted to see what would happen without that buffer.”
    Now he has a wife, whom he met in China, and a daughter, and said his life now revolves around training, teaching and studying. He graduated officially from the academy in 2014 and still helps teach there, a practitioner of the Wudang Wushu of the San Feng lineage, while also holding his own classes as well.
    Pinnick said the goal is to one day return to the US and teach what he has learned, opening a school of his own. Looking back on his amazing journey, Pinnick said he has grown leaps and bounds from a small-town American kid who had a daydream he could not shake.
    “Back then I had a phrase that kind of shot me into the path of coming here and that was to ask myself, ‘What if?’ And I would play these stories out in my head, and then I thought I should stop asking that question because it’s making me indecisive in life, and I pushed myself to ask the question, ‘What if now?’”

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    Jake Pinnick

    Tai chi's unlikely disciple
    After leaving his US home behind 14 years ago, Jake Pinnick has dedicated his life to the sacred ways of Wudang Mountain

    Updated: 2024-02-20 09:36


    Jake Pinnick is a renowned practitioner and instructor of Wudang Sanfeng martial arts on Wudang Mountain in Hubei province. WU ZHIZUN/XINHUA
    As dawn breaks over Wudang Mountain in Central China's Hubei province, a tall figure is silhouetted against the 600-year-old Yuxu Gong Temple, also known as the Jade Void Temple, brandishing a gleaming tai chi sword. Despite his Western features, he blends seamlessly with the other Taoists residing on the mountain.

    The man in question is Jake Pinnick, an American who identifies as a 16th-generation disciple of the Wudang Sanfeng martial arts lineage, named after the legendary Taoist reputed to have lived on Wudang Mountain and to have invented tai chi.

    Annually, tens of thousands of foreigners make their way to the sacred mountain, yet Pinnick stands out as a permanent resident, who has made the mountain his home. He now serves as an instructor, imparting knowledge of tai chi and Chinese culture to a global audience.


    Jake Pinnick is a renowned practitioner and instructor of Wudang Sanfeng martial arts on Wudang Mountain in Hubei province. WU ZHIZUN/XINHUA
    'Stayed for the culture'

    For millennia, Wudang Mountain has served as a sanctuary for those in pursuit of Taoist enlightenment. Driven to study at the esteemed Wudang Traditional Taoist Kungfu Academy, Pinnick set off from his hometown of Kewanee, Illinois, in 2010, crossing oceans to reach the mountain.

    Back then, the absence of an airport close to the mountain and a less developed rail network in China posed significant challenges. Compounded by his lack of Chinese language skills and overseas travel experience, Pinnick's journey was fraught with difficulties, including lost luggage and disorientation. He credits the kindness of several Chinese individuals with preventing him from turning back.

    Now, fluent in Mandarin and with a Chinese family, Pinnick has become a familiar sight in his black Taoist robe, his long black beard, and hair styled into a bun. Whether carrying a long sword or a flute, riding a red electric scooter, or guiding international disciples through the mountain trails, he is a symbol of cultural integration.

    "Looking back, I realize I've overcome a lot of challenges," Pinnick reflects. His initial years were filled with obstacles: language barriers, dietary adjustments and the demands of rigorous training.

    No matter the weather, his daily regime began at 5:30 am, involving resistance training with bamboo sticks and physical conditioning through martial arts disciplines. Despite occasionally feeling overwhelmed, he found the strength to persevere.

    In his class of 24 international students, only 12 saw the program through to the end. Pinnick was among these resilient few, mastering disciplines such as tai chi, xingyiquan, and qigong.

    "I came here for martial arts, but I stayed because of the culture behind it," Pinnick explains.

    He emphasizes that Wudang martial arts focus on harmony — both internal and external — and the balance between strength and flexibility.


    Jake Pinnick is a renowned practitioner and instructor of Wudang Sanfeng martial arts on Wudang Mountain in Hubei province. WU ZHIZUN/XINHUA
    Inspirational force

    During a performance of Wudang Taihequan at the 2023 Wudang Tai Chi International Friendship Competition, a black butterfly unexpectedly joined him, captivating the audience.

    The video went viral on social media, with one netizen interpreting the scene as "Zhuangzi (the ancient Taoist philosopher) transforming into a butterfly to encourage him". Another commended his performance as "authentic and true to its roots".

    Pinnick clinched two gold medals at the event, while his two foreign students each secured a silver. However, he says: "Medals are not important to me; what matters is that people, through me, get to know tai chi and Chinese culture."

    He has harnessed the power of the internet to widen his reach. Over the past three years, together with his wife, Cao Ling, he has produced and shared hundreds of short videos, drawing fans from the United States and Europe into the orbit of his tai chi and bamboo flute practices.

    After three years of online classes with the American, Maurijn Bracke from Belgium finally had the opportunity for face-to-face instruction. "The study of tai chi involves martial arts, Taoist philosophy, classical music, tea art, and more, and Jake can explain them all clearly," says Bracke.


    American Jake Pinnick has wholeheartedly embraced traditional Taoist culture after leaving the US for China in 2010. WU ZHIZUN/XINHUA
    In touch with tradition

    Pinnick's dedication to Wudang culture is unwavering. Whether at home, traveling by train or plane, or even celebrating Christmas with friends, he remains clad in his Taoist attire.

    "Practicing tai chi is a way to start a new day that is even better than having coffee," says the American.

    Pinnick is proud of his book Introduction to the Dong Xiao: Learn How to Play the Chinese Vertical Flute, which was published in the United States in 2022. He says there are few English books on tai chi or Taoism and he feels obligated to create learning resources for the many enthusiasts worldwide.

    Currently, Pinnick is researching the ancient text Tao Te Ching and writing a book in English that includes his own understanding of the work.

    "Many people are curious about how I explain traditional Chinese culture in English. My answer is to learn Chinese first and then express it in English," says Pinnick, adding in Chinese that "traditional Chinese culture is profound and extensive, and I became fascinated. Learning for two or three years is not enough; it may take a lifetime, and different ages bring different understandings."

    Pinnick's Sino-American family lives and breathes Chinese culture daily. His 9-year-old daughter, Cao Linna, not only practices tai chi and Wudang Sword but also plays the guzheng and hulusi.

    Looking ahead, Pinnick's vision is clear: to establish martial arts schools in both China and the United States.

    "Many Westerners hope to study on Wudang Mountain, but they don't have the time and opportunity. So, I will take Wudang culture to the US," said Pinnick. "Except that I can't see myself living away from Wudang. This is my second home, where I have my family and my students."

    In his quest to promote tai chi, Pinnick has earned certification from the American Council on Exercise and is currently enrolled in a two-year online university course. His philosophy of life is simple: pursue your passions relentlessly. "I don't want to be an ordinary coach teaching ordinary students," he says. "I want to become a master, dedicated to carrying forward Wudang culture and nurturing the 17th generation disciples of the Wudang Sanfeng lineage."
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    Training at Wudang

    I'd really like to drop out of my life for a month next year and go and study in the mountains with my wife, training, enjoying the scenery and allowing my wife to paint landscapes in the off time.
    I've heard that Wudang is becoming increasingly like Shaolin, and that there are some less than kosher teachers there. I've tried researching, but it's somewhat difficult as I don't read Chinese (yet), and information on the net can be out of date. You Xuande has apparently left Wudang, and I can't find any info on training with Wang li Ping, who are both people who's kung fu I've seen footage of and been impressed by. Do you guys have any suggestions or advice?
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    Honestly bro I would find an excellent teacher and train with him/her regardless of where they are. Tim Cartmell would be one of my suggestions surely (www.shenwu.com). Hu Xi Lin would be another (www.sixharmoniesmantis.com). Though it is a nice thought to go off into the mountains and train, in all honesty you are most likely going to waste your time.
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    My wife isn't going to want to train 8 hours a day in a rundown suburb of Shanghai though. The point is to have an experience. I train regularly with leading masters in my own style, I want someone good (great would be awesome, and Wang Li Ping is very good at Wudang) and I want to spend a month in the mountains.
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    To each their own. It would be nice, but I have heard nothing but silly **** re: Wudang / Shaolin etc. Wushu at best Perhaps I am wrong (hope I am), but not from what I hear.
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    There's plenty of reasons to train at Wudang

    For one, Wudang is really beautiful. It's one of the most beautiful mountain ranges I've ever seen. The Himalayas were more beautiful, but that's a different story. For two, there's plenty of good traditional practitioners there. It's quite different than Shaolin however. At Shaolin, everything is pretty close together and there's a concentrated tourist zone. At Wudang, everything is spread out. I was there for only a short time so I didn't see much. But beyond the standard wushu-for-tourists demos, I did see quite a bit of authentic stuff being practiced off stage. You just got to know who to ask and where to look. So many people disregard Wudang and Shaolin based on what they are shown - that's like seeing the Wizard of Oz but missing the man behind the curtain. You can't believe everything you hear, Jake.

    Ben, email me privately at gene@kungfumagazine.com. I have someone in Wudang, an American, that could give you more info. He's good on email and I'd be happy to forward your contact info to him. I'd have to leave it up to him to respond however, since I cannot speak for him.
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