WC vs. MMA link

[ghostofwingchun]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...d+martial+arts

You can see the wc guy trying to attack eyes when taken to ground . . . and how it does not work.

[Fajing]

Dude, I'm not seeing the eye attack attempt. Is it immediately when they hit the floor? I'm not busting on the Wing Chun guy or anything, but he looks awefully frail in comparison to the ground fighter. Anyone who has been in a beef knows that this matters. While Wing Chun can be effective for anyone of any size, I'd take an opponent my size or smaller over an equally skilled opponent the size of triple H. Regardless, good clip!

[mr. jai]

I must agree, I did not see an attack to the grappler's eyes either. If you don't mind me asking, where was this vid shot at.

[ghostofwingchun]

My friends . . . look at what the guy on the bottom is doing with his hands when they are on the floor . . . he is trying to grab the top guys eyes . . . but the top guy keeps hiding his face.

Thanks,

Ghost

[Matrix]

The first 2 seconds of the clip tell the whole story.

[Fajing]

Sorry man, I just can't really see what's going on. What style is the "kung fu" guy doing, since there are too many to count? Is this clip arguing against strikers in general? Since they obviously used a skilled, physically endowed ground fighter, why didn't they use the same quality of striker? No offense, but just a look at the "kung fu" guy says it all. Let's see someone like Emin Boztepe or Chuck Liddel match up to this ground fighter. Might be a little more fair.

[chisauking]

Now I understand why Knifefighter and co advocates ground grappling all the time. Awesome! Simply awesome. The WC guy simply had NO chance whatsoever.

After watching this clip, I may have to re-evaluate the effectiveness of wing chun adgainst a grapper.

[Matrix]

No offense, but just a look at the "kung fu" guy says it all.

Exactly. The guy looks like Jerry Lewis in the original Nutty Professor movie. Pathetic.

[jmdrake]

Sorry man, I just can't really see what's going on. What style is the "kung fu" guy doing, since there are too many to count?

Exactly! First of all this is a VERY old clip, so forgive me for yawning. Second have you EVER seen a clip of a Wing Chun man "entering" with his arms at his side like that? If someone wants to play silly clips they can take this same clip to every other kung for forum and claim it's "MMA versus Praying Mantis" or "MMA versus Choi Li Fut" or whatever. It's really just MMA versus somebody in a kung fu uniform and it proves absolutely nothing.

Regards,

John M. Drake

[Knifefighter]

Dude, I'm not seeing the eye attack attempt.

The kung fu guy's eye attack is what set him up to get his arm broken at the end with the figure-4 Americana arm lock.