Bung Bo or Lanjie

[YinYangDagger]

Simple question PM peeps.

For sole combative purposes, which would you prefer to learn, Bung Bo or Lanjie?

Cut me some slack guys, don't say both

Seriously, if you only learned ONE PM form, which would you prefer?

[Shen Zhou]

If I had to pick I would have to say Bung Bo. Aside from this being my favorite form to perform it is also my favorite form to use in free fighting. I prefer it because if its fast mantis hands techniques, closing the distance techniques, arm locks, suck N’ spit energy, sweeps, etc……. There’s so much to this form that I know I can not do it justice here describing it. Over all the forms I know this one has to be on the top of the list. Direct and to the point form, get in, stay on top of the guy and beat him with every thing you have. Sorry for being overly simplistic.

Shen Zhou

[YinYangDagger]

Great reply Shen Zhou. Thanks!

[YinYangDagger]

Thanks for all the great insights shanghai_kid!

[ironox]

Hi , I Have just come across a Filipino website with the form of beng bu in pictures.

Thought it might be of interest to you NPM people

www.lingming.home.ph.qixingtanglang.htm


sean

[18elders]

put me down for lanjie

[count]

Originally posted by YinYangDagger
Simple question PM peeps.

For sole combative purposes, which would you prefer to learn, Bung Bo or Lanjie?

Cut me some slack guys, don't say both

Seriously, if you only learned ONE PM form, which would you prefer?

Coming from more of a bagua guy with some mantis, I'm going to take the Lanjie side simply for power issues.

[YinYangDagger]

Well, if this were an actual poll, from the responses it comes down to Bung Bo: 2 and Lanjie: 2.

Interesting...

[mantis108]

Please put me down for Lanjie as well.

Mantis108

[Skarbromantis]

Put me down for Bung Bo.

Skard1

[Laviathan]

I prefer Lanjie.

Bengbu is nice, very straightforward and agressive and all. But I like Lanjie more because of its' flow, and the techniques and power usage are more sophisticated than Bengbu, in my humble opinion.

[count]

Originally posted by shanghai_kid
Your Beng Bu has no power?

I didn't say that shanghai_kid, I love Beng Bu form. I'm just acknowledging than Lanjie has more focus on the use of the spine and thus develops real power that translates to bagua better.

[count]

Originally posted by shanghai_kid
"I love Beng Bu form. I'm just acknowledging than Lanjie has more focus on the use of the spine and thus develops real power that translates to bagua better."

Maybe it's an English language thing, sorry.

For example ... your statement above logically implies that Beng Bu has no 'real power'. Is that what you mean?

To be clearer, it's not only an implication ... that grammar itself -Lanjie has more ..and thus - just says directly that Beng Bu does not have real power becuase it's doesn't have enough focus on the spine.

If that's what you mean, that's cool. I just want to be clear.

Sorry shanghai_kid, but it seems more than a language problem confusing you. My statement that one "has more focus" has no implications of the other having none. Both these forms develop characteristics essential to a complete understanding of praying mantis systems. My preference was based on which has more benefit to a bagua man.

[count]

shanghai_kid was concerned that my comments on lanjie implied something about the ineffectiveness of bengbu. So concerned that he brought it to me in private messages. Since it wasn't my intention to imply anything about anything except my own opinion of the value of lanjie I thought it was interesting enough to discuss openly with the forum members. Of course I won't be speaking for shanghi_kid, but I was interested in some of the more expert mantis's and teachers opinions.

I only had about 3 years of mantis before I started bagua around 10 years ago. I learned about 4 mantis forms, since most of our mantis training is basics, footwork, hands, fighting. If it weren't for that foundation plus my longfist and tai chi, I could not handle the requirments of bagua. If you ask a different way, I might say my favorite is zaiyao but if I could only learn one mantis form it would be beng bu. But lanjia helped develop more power from the spine. This helped my bagua more than others for power. But if it helps, beng bu helped my fighting more than the others.

I'm happy for your passion in the praying mantis system.

[count]

It's just a discussion. I took out the reference's to you in the post and I doubt BTL would have a need to lock this one.