Shaolin Vagabond Guy

[CFREW]

Hi All, im a southern practiconer, an im just interested in what you guys think of this guy, is this guy legit, because his form seems a bit weak, im trying to offend any one, i just want to know, what you northern practiconers think

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9344&q=shaolin

thanks all

[Fen]

This has been worked over on another forum already....



~Jason

[Pk_StyLeZ]

no power in it what so ever
stances are kind of high
back sweep is very high, guy need to stretch more
form is very clear, but would be better if he had power in it

[GeneChing]

...As Wing Lam's former head Sil Lum instructor, he has the external form as it was taught at Lam Kwoon. I don't recognize the guy, but I relinquished my title there over half a decade a go, so there's plenty of Lam Kwoon people I don't know and who probably don't know me. But I'd say he's still a Lam Kwoon decendent because the moves are all in the right place, more or less. He's about where someone who just learned the form might be - has the pattern but hasn't even begun to do the work - the REAL work. There are many missing details. He could be a video student, but I'm guessing he isn't. Remember I wrote those videos. For the earlier sets, I can usually pinpoint some one who's learned from videos pretty easily. He missed a detail early on that was quite explicit in the videos. Now, he could have just overlooked that when he watched the videos, but since it was early on and since it was explicit, I'm inclined to beleive it was a person-to-person transmission. My guess is that he learned it from Lam Kwoon or a student of Lam Kwoon. It's a shame that he posted it, since it reflects poorly on Lam Kwoon students. We've had much better students, of course. And that queue, that queue just kills me.

[MasterKiller]

And that queue, that queue just kills me.

If that bugs you, check out his nipple ring here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...70140645653219

[sean_stonehart]

I like this performance better... http://www.harmoniousfist.com/8web.mov

[GeneChing]

I'm told that if you yank on the nipple ring of an iron body master, it's like pulling the plug on your bathtub drain. All the qi just pours out. Remember that if some dude in a queue attacks you with bot bo . Actually, I like the queue. We Chings like them. Ok, that's a pun, my Ching is not the dynastic Qing.

Does anyone know what lineage sean_stonehart's post above is from? It reminds me of a mainland version of #5 I once saw - very wushu-ish...

[sean_stonehart]

I'm told that if you yank on the nipple ring of an iron body master, it's like pulling the plug on your bathtub drain. All the qi just pours out. Remember that if some dude in a queue attacks you with bot bo . Actually, I like the queue. We Chings like them. Ok, that's a pun, my Ching is not the dynastic Qing.

Does anyone know what lineage sean_stonehart's post above is from? It reminds me of a mainland version of #5 I once saw - very wushu-ish...

Gene... it's from Sifu Kisu's school in LA. www.harmoniousfist.com

[GeneChing]

Is that one of Kisu's students? That's what I should have asked...

[Fen]

...As Wing Lam's former head Sil Lum instructor, .......

For the earlier sets, I can usually pinpoint some one who's learned from videos pretty easily. He missed a detail early on that was quite explicit in the videos. Now, he could have just overlooked that when he watched the videos,

If you look at his Lien Bu

LIN BO KIN (Practice footwork)
1. Yin yang hands facing each other.
2. Grabbing hand, palm chop.
3. Turn around, open the door hand technique.
4. Following step, straight (Chinese character "sun") punch
5. Chopping hand under the arm pit.
6. Immortal carries firewood with a yoke.
7. Break hand grip, palm push.
8. Grabbing hand, hammer strike.
and in 23. Grabbing hand, hammer strike.

He does a side step #8 & 23 Grabbing hand, hammer strike When SilLumKid and I where looking at the vids, He said we do not do that in class. I will ask Wing Sifu? Wing Sifu, said "we do not do that in our class" But I did ask Gene today and he remmbers doing a side step though. So I gess it can be ether way...

Note: When I got the set We did not have the side step... As for the one I teach now. Jing Mo Version

~Jason

[beiquan]

Is that one of Kisu's students? That's what I should have asked...

Yes actually it is Sifu's son.

[GeneChing]

...we were introduced a long time ago. He's grown. Now that I think about it, I seem to recall discussing adding more flair to BSL sets for tournaments with Kisu. Ah, my memory nowadays...

As for the Lian Bu, we did it the hammer fist with a flanking step when I was with Lam Sifu. Maybe he changed it. We all have that perogative and he has changed sets before. Since it was a military set, and very very simple, there are so many versions. The queued gentleman who has elicited this thread, his LBQ is very close to Lam Sifu's (at least as I recall it) - the only major variation is the elbow strikes (in horse not bow) and the cat stance down chop block, which is basically the same structurally but has a different feel. I hope that individual stuck with BSL. He's got a solid physique and a decent horse stance. He just needs to find more life in the BSL movements. Too stiff.

[CLFNole]

I think the guy mentioned at first should spend more time practicing and less time trying to look like a monk that stole Fong Sai Yuk's hair.

Why does kung fu attract all the nuts?

[David Jamieson]

I think the guy mentioned at first should spend more time practicing and less time trying to look like a monk that stole Fong Sai Yuk's hair.

Why does kung fu attract all the nuts?

the queue looks goofy...on anyone really. as for all the nuts, I thought those were the right wingers with guns?

[green_willow]

Hi All, im a southern practiconer, an im just interested in what you guys think of this guy, is this guy legit, because his form seems a bit weak, im trying to offend any one, i just want to know, what you northern practiconers think

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9344&q=shaolin

thanks all

hahahaha I like the music that goes with it. so is this a trailer for a movie where he takes revenge on the Boss who does his sifu in?