Shooter,

You KNEW you were gonna hook me with a thread title like this one .

Training with empty hands and a variety of weapons are a regular part of my neijia teaching/training. With a background in both Baguazhang AND Kali, this seems a natural thing to train. As for responses, they can be similar to those used against empty attacks, but obviously they HAVE to count, and they have to work right the first time, every time.

I also have done quite a bit of development in the use of both the short stick and the knife with Baguazhang applications. The idea is to have Kali's knife skill combined with internal arts power generation and fluidity.