Do you think this is right?...............

[Stacey]

out of curiousity? What constitutes child porn?

It is a girl under 18 yrs old? What about in other countries where the age of consent is 14. Does this mean a 22 year old man can legally have sex with her, but not take a picture of it?

How about a 15 year old looking at a picture of another 15 year old? Lets face it, 15 year olds are hot. Firm bodies. I'm no child perv, thats pure biology.

In many traditional cultures, and even America 100 years ago, 14 was Marriage age, now its a one way ticket to prison. This seems like cultural relativism.

personally, I can tell a 15 year old is hot. 14, they are still a little weird looking.


From a biological standpoint, this is how men rate women.


1. specific hip to waist ratio curvature- Kids have none whatsoever
2. Breasts, deep voice, sexual characteristics-none...
3. kindness and parental instincts- Not even. They are completely self centered and can't take care of themselves.


I guess there is no explaining it. I love children, I just dont' get excited when I see them playing 4 square. Seems to make as much sense as trying to have sex with a tree or a fish. Its not sick as much as its rediculous.

any thoughts? And yes I stand by the fact that 15 year olds are sexy. Fire at will.

[Fighter]

Thank you for welcoming me red_fists. Hey Royal Dragon, me and you think alike. Family members of the victims should get a crack at these people.

[vingtsunstudent]

i was edited for langauge as i have 2 children & couldn't believe what i was reading, my anger got to me & i swore a lot, funny that i can't swear but people can defend these sick pieces of garbage.
as i said, the only cure for these poeple is sudden death & if anyone ever even looked like touching my children i would have no regrets.
i would also love for any of you who try to justify what they do to visit or look at a child whos innocence has been taken from them by one of these vile creatures, besides that i think you need a good flogging for standing up for this scum.
get as interlectual as you like with me, see if i care.
any day of the week i would take the scum & there vioces of reason & put your genitals in a vice & turn it til' they explode.
DO ANY OF YOU HAVE CHILDREN- DO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
get a bit of reality in your lives, they are the lowest of scum & are not look upon even by our most dreaded criminals, who generally do their best to do the right thing by ending the lives of child molestors once they get to prison.
again i say f*** him & anyone who supports him.
vts

[Royal Dragon]

Family members of the victims should get a crack at these people.


DAaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmm Straight!!!


Oh and sweet heart, 15 year olds are NOT hot when your over .......oh let say......................17 at the oldest!!!!

Unless your neal. Are you Neal????? I bet you are!!

[Stacey]

For the record..I support Neal as a human 100 percent.

Like a dog I once had...I loved her, but when she killed a sheep and got a taste for blood we had to put her down. I loved her, I still do, but she had to pay for her crime to ensure the safety of the neighbor's flock.

[Fighter]

Yes vingtsunstudent, the people who defend scum like that have no children like we do.

[Royal Dragon]

Right over the side of a cliff!!!!!!

[Merryprankster]

Stacey--

To clarify--I don't hate Neal. I don't hate Neal because Neal has done nothing to me or anybody I care about. I hate the things that Neal gave in to. I hate the decision Neal made. I hate Neal's pathetic willpower (I just couldn't resist... I have an addiction... is never an excuse in my eyes--If you want change bad enough, you'll do what it takes.).

I hate those things because humanity can be better than that.

As for his posts on cyberkwoon, that's their business, unless it can be shown that he's not allowed on the internet. I personally would ban out of caution, but I offer this for thought:

A couple have mentioned the "illness," aspect of this. Well, that may be true. Alcoholics are clearly ill. However, the successful ones who stay dry, all have a few things in common:

They all stay away from bars, liquor stores, situations that used to trigger their drinking, even staying away from the old crowd if they have to.

I have difficulty believing that a man serious about staying "clean," from pedophilia would place himself near and around children, unsupervised, beyond passing them in the street, or even frequent forums in which they might be found to "play" with.

[vingtsunstudent]

for the record
jojitstu27-neal cameron-tulsawingchun
vts

[Stacey]

Royal Dragon, that was hillarious..lol

I'm not neal and 15 (more like 16) year olds are hot..

Perfect bodies...according to society I should get a doctorate or be well established with my psycological equal before procreating at the age of 45.

Well 15 year olds are hot. Marriage age in most traditional cultures. You can still get married in some states at 16. I have heard 40 year old say..ewe gross, someone in their 20's...give me a fuggin break, have your intellectual match, but your body wants a teenager.


well my dad married my mom when he was 50 and she was 24, does that make him a pedophile or simply virile?



Oh and everybody that doesn't agree with me, stop jumping to all these conclusions. Because lets say I have an old picture from high school of a 16 year old naked...does that mean I have child porn? Am I a sex offender?

I just want to clear this up. Because I have no sexualy feeling towards children. Nor do I go hitting on anyone below my age range..I actually date primarilly older women, but I still know 16 year olds are sexy.

[Fighter]

Have to go you guys, my one year old daughter is crying like crazy. I'll talk to you guys tommorrow. Oh yeah, family members of the victims should get a crack at these people.

[JasBourne]

So glad to hear that when I reach 50 and I take on a 24 year old lover, I will be "virile" instead of a "dirty old lady". I've got something hot to look forward to, it seems

[red_fists]

Jas.

For women it is 50 yr old, married with a 24 yr old Toy and a mature Lover on the side.

[Asia]

So glad to hear that when I reach 50 and I take on a 24 year old lover, I will be "virile" instead of a "dirty old lady". I've got something hot to look forward to, it seems

Having held the position of younger lover boy toy ( I was 23 she was 46) I must say I throughly enjoyed it!!! I encourage all older women to take younger lovers so they can train them to outstanding Older Lover when ther time comes. (I still settle for just being a Dirty Old Man as well!!! )

[SifuAbel]

Funny enough, this all started with me calling Neal on a two year old hack story about him having to use his skill recently. After which I called him simply a sick feak. Thats where it all hit the vornado. People right off the bat stated that they knew and didn't care. That is a crying shame.

Let start with stacey. A 16 year old girl at least can have the sexual maturity and desire to actually consent to a sexual experience with another person of her choosing and weigh the consequences of her actions, an 8 year old girl has none of those qualities. In any case we are talking about the alleged rape, the act of sexual intercourse with a non consenting person, of a minor. He was not convicted of this crime. He was under investigation for it and the only thing that saved him was the fact that the girl could not or did not want(we don't know) to identify him in court. Which, IN MY OPINION, is based on fear because the defendant was sitting in plain site in the court room. This point is moot. You are moot. You I ignore, everyone else should too. You are fishing for something to be shocking with. You've gotten your attention quota, now go away and let the adults speak.

Merry,

Good points, kids are plenty on the internet.

My role here is not really to get Neal banned. On the contrary, I want him to be around so that everyone can see for themselves and be the almost united front that KFO(for once) has been on this issue. The people have the power here. My stance here is simply to have the right to call him a sick freak because it's the truth. No court in america would indict me for stateing the truth about a covicted sex offender. And yes, indescent exposure is a sex offense.

Neal, if you are reading this, What part of what I've said so far is a LIE? What could I possibly be sued for? Anything else besides the tulsa web page and the news article( public information) is my opinion, that I can't be sued for. Letting people know who you are is a right that I will fight for. I read FFabs position on this subject, and I have to agree that until some court somewhere tells him that neal can't be at cyberkwoon he doesn't have to do so. But at the same time until a court tells me that i can't mention neals offenses(which are public record and therefore not liableous) I will also not cease. Neal does not work off the internet, being on or off cyberkwoon does not afftect his livelyhood, he doesn't have a character left to defame, his actions are public record so there is no instance of slander. Whats left?

Neal has his lawyer "monitoring" the web pages for a law suit. LOL! A poor wretch like neal has a lawyer on retainer with nothing better to do than cruise the internet and charge him 100 dollors an hour? Got to give the som' bitz credit for imagination. If I were neal i would duck out and let this blow over instead of making waves. Do you really want to put your life under a microscope again?

Can one of you lawyers please correct if I'm wrong?