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Originally posted by Alan Orr
Good post Keith. The HFY guys hate being asked anything, but they like to talk alot. I have never add any problem with TWC or any other branch of wing chun. I have not even a problem with HFY. I do have a problem with the guys in that group who always attack my teacher and have nothing to say but child like name calling.
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What we hate is answering the same stupid questions over and over again that come from a group that has more to answer for than anyone else. Alan you need to resolve the fact that your Sifu produced a book which research says Wing Chun comes from Shaolin but he himself believes in some White Crane theory. Just because Robert doesn't like the answers he keeps sending your dumb puppet @ss out to ask them over and over again. You haven't had any problems with TWC. This is not about you this is about a Sifu out of control. You would not even be here were it not for Robert Chu sending you, Terence and others out to see how long you can drag out a thread on KFO for his sick twisted benefit every time he gets a wild hair up his @ss here come the trolls like clock work. A leopard like Robert Chu has not changed his spots since he began feuding with Randy Williams, William Cheung, Moy Yat, Lei Mu Shan, and many others and not even Victor will dispute that.
There are honest answers to honest questions all over this forum if a person is willing to look and take some initiative they can learn a lot of things. There are also bait and switch questions all over this forum and anyone watching knows that when HFY is involved those questions always always without exception come from the same d@mn group of Robert Chu cronies. This type of crap does not happen by accident. There is no denying that Robert Chu has been attacking HFY since it was introduced to the public and people like Victor have taken the bait and joined in on that attack without ever understanding the facts. It just even so happens that in this particular thread Robert was gracious enough to bless us with his presence. This thread just as predicted is now living proof that John Crecione's question was never sincere or honest!
Alan you and Victor don't recognize the answer because you refuse to call a punch a punch and a kick a kick
All WING CHUN COMES FROM THE SAME SOURCE There are similarities that will always exist and if you throw in White Crane of course you will needlessly make things harder than need be and confusing. After 1850 there exist at least 2 branches of Wing Chun that of Wong Wa Bo/ Leung Yee Tai and that of Hung Gun Biu and the Boxer Society. This explains why some things may now look different. Arguing over the differences you don't study is a waste of time that you and Victor are now engaged in at the moment which is just silly and equivalent to trolling to those that understand the facts.
So again Gwai Ma is present in all southern martial arts in some form or another. Gwai Ma is more a term emphasizing the use of the knee but more times than not any specific use because it is a general term. Any system which emphasizes tin yaan dei as Hung Fa Yi does and being a southern martial art will utilize Gwai Ma but it will not be specific to the Bui Jee level because again it is a general term.