I have a Shandong Black Tiger form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhnoti
Shaolin has its own Black Tigers as well, though I believe they were created pretty recently.
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I have a Shandong Black Tiger form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhnoti
Shaolin has its own Black Tigers as well, though I believe they were created pretty recently.
I actually meant the look/moves/feel of SD's Black Tigers, sorry to be so vague. It's one of the few SD forms I've heard people compliment online. But, honestly, SD forms are the only type I've seen in person.
Really? I've seen lots of good Hung Gar, CLF and mantis in person. No other Tiger, though. I've seen some on vid. The techniques and footwork were very similiar, but it was played a little slower than we do our Black Tiger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhnoti
Maybe I don't get out much. :D
Seriously, I've heard of no styles outside of Korean/Japanese and shaolin-do even within an hour of where I live. And to be honest, the Japanese styles all seem to have even more nebulous histories than SD...or if they DO have a "lineage" it's via seminar.
Knoxville does seem like it's got quite a bit to offer martially...
It's got more. Not much for CMA though, but certainly more than where you are or where I used to live. CMA: SD, Wah Lum, a BaGua/Chen Tai Chi teacher, and Richard Clear in Maryville (Kung Tao). Lots of TKD and some Japanese (a really good aikido school here, small but good instruction.) The boxing guy you mentioned, some BJJ and MMA gyms. I've run accross some poeple that train privately too so it's there if you want. For my tastes, I'm happy with the Mullins. They work me hard and teach me well. And its very affordable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhnoti
The CLF I see is in Atlanta and the mantis is Oso and Yu Shan's group. Good stuff a couple of hours away.
MK is gonna mess right around and discover the proof that SD is in fact a legit system...:D
I may have to end up moving to Tennessee i think :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhnoti
Look us up if you do.
Everyone knows Austin is way cooler than any place in Tenn.
We also have killer Mexican Martinis. And good BBQ, beat that!
I've got nothing but good things to say about Austin. . . . but our b-ball team put the smack down on your then ranked #2 horns.
(I must be in a alternate dimension if I'm talking up Tenn. basketball, but not mentioning football.)
O/T with current discussion, but I had the chance to witness Judge in action this past weekend. I had a group participating in a tournament in NC. I knew JP was entering this contest and I looked forward to seeing him again. And JP, with all due respect to you, your lady is HOT! You are one lucky dude! Anyway, I officiated in forms and fighting. So I of course got to see JP in action. Your 5 animal form was a very nice set... extremely long, how in the h*ll can you remember all that? I scored JP`s Kwando high, one of the nicer sets I have seen and a personal favorite, some difficult moves to execute. But what most impressed me with JP was his fighting! This man is a true gladiator! He is right at home in the ring, and displayed excellant combat skills. His name came up many times that night while our group were pounding back beers, reflecting over the day. I will use him as an example for my folks in the future. JP`s division was very tuff, and he manned up, a real stud in the ring.
Thanks as always Jim. You're going to have to post the KFO picture you took.
I plan on posting the pic, every picture tells a story.
Yes. 5 animal fist is long as ****. I'm working it up right now for our tournament coming up and everytime I finish running through it I'm like "Oh god, what in the world was I thinking when I decided to this form".
Bah, basketball. I'm an Illini, so I care naught about the crazy antics of these wacky longhorns.
I know the feeling, but the form is just so pretty when its done right. One day I'll get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by lxtruong
I know; and she can cook.Quote:
Originally Posted by yu shan
Hmm, a lady that looks that good and cooks too! You deserve her bro.
Wait til you drop by one day while passing through town & she has "snacks" for you. I haven't eaten that well before in restaurants!!
Jim and Oso, Knoxville is half-way between Nashville and Asheville. Yo can drop by my place anytime for snacks or just to say hello. I'm two minutes away from a school if you want to get a workout in too.
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Originally Posted by Judge Pen
Is it just me or.....
Oops. That invite goes for you too, GT or anyone else in Kentucky if you are ever down my way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Tiger
...no one tell JP...but, party at his place next weekend. ;)
Whoo hoo!!! Food & beer supplies are at the top of his road too!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhnoti
Wonder if he'll leave a credit card laying around to make sure we don't run short???:D :p
Just take care of the dogs. That will save me money on a dog-sitter.
JP, I`m interested, have you run this by Matt? This takes two hours off my trip and I can be home to my puerto rican princess that night.
I'm all for it. A friend of mine just opened a school 2 minutes from my house. It is also 2 minutes off of the interstate in West Knoxville. I am helping him teach some classes in exchange for a key to the place. I'll be there on Saturdays from 10-11:30 for class and open mat. I can meet you guys there if it would be easier for you (and I can pick up some technique along the way). Just let me know when you guys want to come down. Let me clear it with my friend, but I don't anticipate a problem.
Sounds good to me. West K'ville would put it right in the middle of me and Yu.
Let's set it up.
Yu, don't forget you'll still cross the time zone.
Ha dang we`re building bridges! Yep, I`ve done the knoxville run 100 times. I know every nick and cranny in I-40. JP thanks for the offer, this helps.
No problem. Right off of the Lovel Road exit. . . .
West Knoxville, 2nd exit good for me, I hate the thru traffic. Bad for Matt though. Are they ever going to get this traffic problem fixed in K`ville?
I've been here for 9 years and it hasn't gotten any better. One thing is for sure, they've worked on the problem enough that you would think it should be fixed.
I thought that road construction was SOP for Chattvegas & K'ville. I've been in & through them since the late 80's & have yet to avoid road work at any time.
Hey JP where is the school I used to live off Lovell Rd too. BTW plan to be living there by April Maybe we can train and build further the bridges ?? KC:)
Ok. When's the first date?
Yu, I need to really get some time in on Ling Beng Bu, both sides.
Hey, can anybody get in on this?
Actually I'm heading for a road trip soon and might be able to make a few stops along the way. PM me where I can find some of you guys.
to be on topic for a second...
I had a walk in tonight.
She had just come from the SD school down the street.
In the process of pitching myself and my school she asked me what the difference is between me and the SD school.
Here's what I told her.
The sifu at that school is a nice guy. I thought so the first time I met him, he got a good recommendation from the only other SD guy I know who is also a nice guy.
I told her that the teacher and the overall school environment was the most important thing.
I also told her that both school's systems were readily researched on the internet and that she could do so am draw her on conclusions.
I feel I was fair while somewhat expressing my own opinion.
I've had more contact with that sifu lately and continue to think he's a nice guy and plan on working with him and his teacher (Master Mullins) on getting a good sparring venue going in asheville because that's what they seem to be interested in.
But, to be fair to myself, I still have reservations about what they say as a group about the system and it's history.
Ashevegas, NC 28806
;)
you're coming to fight, right?
Glad to hear that you have not expressed Bias in what you told that prospective student I would like to meet you you seem to harbor the true Martial Way are you in K-ville KC:)
nope, I'm only about 90 minutes away though.
Be sure to bring in Scott Powell in Asheville. He teaches there too, but only has about 10 students. He's not the most politically correct guy, but he has a good heart, a great personality, and he's a good fighter. He just calls things as he sees them which can rub some people the wrong way. He was there on Saturday and ended up being a coach of sorts for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oso
As for what you said; that's fine. I explain it to people like this:
Our art is controversial in the CMA community. Our teacher came from Indonesia, and while claiming lineage to the Shaolin temples, the outward trappings have changed somewhat from what you see in other CMA schools. Our history, beyond Sin The's teachers, are also unverifiable. While some people place a great deal of emphasis on history and lineage, I think what matters is the quality of the instruction and the applicability of the material. I feel we offer both as well as any school.
But, then again, I am a little biased. Call it as you see it Oso. I feel you are as objective as anyone I've met on this topic.
I expalin the difference in your school and ours in terms of focus. Your school focuses on a single style and you will get a deeper understanding of mantis forms, theory application and principles there than we can offer you. The forms are good and they train good fighters. Our school teaches more diverse material in a curriculim designed to build off the skills learned earlier. It's a different approach, but the end result is intended to be the same.
Plus you guys have the best spear set I've ever seen.
Yeah, it's the Ou Ji Fight Tour '06. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Oso
Actually, if there's as much drinking as I hear then fighting is inevitable. I'm mostly Irish. :p