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Merryprankster
Everytime anybody asks him a question (or even if they don't).
You could make the same sketch with kymus up there, only he would shout
"STRAWMAN"
You are adept at bullsh!t MP. Want me to show how the shoe fit each time? Honestly, for someone that lectures others on debate, I would think that you'd stay away from such phoney arguments
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LOL at "partisan" since you have zero idea what my political leanings are.
It's transparent.
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Again, you've brought nothing to the party but a bunch of what you perceive to be holes in the official story and what you perceive to be circumstantial evidence.
For which you have done the same. You have offered a typical "debunker blog" for whichd I'm willing to betd you never knew about almost any of the issues contained therein before glancing upon. That's the funny thing with you government conspiracy theorists, you know 1% of the issues and tell other people they're wrong.
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You can't/won't offer up a coherent alternative theory of the crime, yet appear (since you won't come out and say it) to make the leap that "Gee, the government must have been involved."
For which I base upon 2 years of independant research outside of petty partisan politics which you and Rogue subscribe to. Sorry MP, I actually enjoy research, and like to know whether or not I am correct. Why do you think I actually read the so-called debunker blogs?
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There is, in truth, not one shred of conclusive evidence in the conspiracy theorists favor.
You just proved to me that you know NOTHING about this subject. But again, how would you even know? You've spent hardly any time researching this issue for yourself, and I know for a fact that you haven't a faintest clue what information the 9/11 Truth Movement has provided. You're still out there in make-believe land making the claim that everyone makes a theory and reaches to find evidence to support it.
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It's a giant circular argument, resting on the unproven assumption that the government lied
Assumption that the gov lied? AHAHAHAHHA I wasn't aware that the press fabricated all the news articles about the French, Germans, Israelis, Italians, and others warning about 9/11.
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....and the corollary assumption that the thousands of people that would have had to have been involved kept quiet
Yup, when Operation Northwoods, Operation Gladio, Project SHAD, Operation Ajax, etc. came around, everyone involved spilled the beans. Elvis didn't do no drugs :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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having no clear motivation to do so
See, again you show complete ignorance on this issue. Motivation would be directly profiting from the crime. But you wouldn't know about that because it seems that you're allergic to researching issues (it's much easier to close your eyes and dismiss it all at once ;) )
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and that the OVERWHELMING majority of academics and experts of the world who have studied this issue in depth, and agree with the official story arc are all either corrupted or stupid.
Again you are ignorant of the experts in the science, political, and intelligence fields that disagree with it.
yes, it is really pathetic that you claim I'm wrong but offer nothing but phoney arguments and hypocricy.
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Never mind that the argument construction is begging the question anyway. The government lies so we can't trust the official story, so the official story proves the government lied about 9/11...
Tell me specifically, who has formulated their opinions this way. Let's see you lie again :)
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For the record, when I paint in "broad brush strokes," I am doing exactly that. IN GENERAL, those are the sorts of things that conspiracy theorists do. Whether or not they specifically apply TO YOU or any other person is a case by case basis.
How would you know? You don't like indepth research. I'm sorry, I've spent years on both sides of this issue; I know these people a lot better than you do. I don't need to create infactual theorisations about large groups of people I disagree with.
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I will admit that what you lack in logic
Hypocricy; amazing.
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despite your appeals to jargon (I used it to mock you - and you will also note that I EXPLAINED what it meant in a previous thread)
And I explained my "jargon" in detail as well when you cried about it. I've debated politics a lot; but you're the first to create these conspiracy theories about jargon.
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and your insistence that leaps of faith constitute an argument
You are such a ****ing liar. Call me what you want, bu don't ****ing lie about me. I'd expect you to have more class than that. I base everything on what i have researched from mainstream, international, and independant media. You must have missed my post where I talked about that, huh? When I theorise - unlike you - I understand that it is theory, and not fact; and I will openly admit to it to make sure that everyone understands that it is just theory IMO.
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you make up for in passion.
This is what I don't get about you. You banter on and on about these "jargon" conspiracy theories, offer blatant theorisations to prove yourself right, offer up a whole dish of rhetoric, but then later try to be "honest" and level with me. Do you want an intellectual conversation, or a mud fight?
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Enjoy the rest of this thread. It will soon be relegated to the scrapheap of history, along with 9/11 conspiracy, where they both belong.
Yup. Operation Northwoods, Operation Ajax, Tuskegee Study, Project Shad, Operation Gladio... Nah, they never existed. Our government loves us :rolleyes: . Close your eyes MP (oh way they're already closed! silly me :))