Hi hoping you could answer a question for me please. I am doing research into the Ten Tigers of Canton and came across one of your posts from 2007 :-Golden Hook Li (bearded Li) happens to also be Sing Lung under a different name. Tit Kiuh Sam actually studied with him BEFORE Wong Yan Lam did. Where did you hear this from please ? Any thing else you can share about these Teh Tigers would be greatly appreciated. I have a much more detailed history of So Hark Fu than we have released on our web site. After some conversations with my Si-Hing Eris Tsai, I have so far been able to find out that there was a definite exchange of methods etc between So Hark Fu & Wong Kei-Ying, So Chan (Beggar So), Wong Yan-Lam and Leung Kwan (Tit Kiu Saam). I think this list will expand as I dig deeper. Paul Burkinshaw Hark Fu Mun (UK Branch) paulburkinshaw@yahoo.co.uk www.black-tiger-association.org www.sil-lum-kune.com