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Black Jack
03-27-2002, 02:27 PM
I hope some will find this article interesting enough to read if they have not heard of this famous case before, I just thought it was a good time to put it up with our own virtual perv running about again, that and its always a wake-up call to be reminded about such things, even more so when one has children of their own.

Do we really know who are neighbors are?

It sucks to think that way but it seems a lot of the time has passed since kids were allowed to ride around the block unsupervised, as I and my friends did when we were young, just something to ponder over, not very pleasent though.

www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/megans_law/

ewallace
03-27-2002, 02:37 PM
I couldn't finish reading that ****. Got a lump in my throat when it got to the part about the dad wanting to burn the house down and everyone knowing how his daughter spent the last few moments of her life.

I don't think a convicted sex offender that confessed should ever be free to walk the streets again. Ever. I know were supposed to forgive and forget. I will after they are dead. I never want to find out if their rehab was successful.

Black Jack
03-27-2002, 02:55 PM
Ewallace,

Yeah, I know its painfull stuff.

If you ask me their is nothing wrong with these animals that a dull bonesaw and blowtorch could not fix.

btw, I love the quote you have under you name:D

DelicateSound
03-27-2002, 02:57 PM
I can't say I'd like to kill sickos like that [not if they have a mantal disorder] but I do think that a remote island in the middle of the Atlantic could be made better use of.

That sh!t really makes me feel sick though. You're right though Black Jack - kids need to be supervised, not all are that streetwise.

ewallace
03-27-2002, 03:02 PM
Yeah sewing their eyelids open and sticking them in the sahara desert during a sand storm seems too merciful for them.


I started to really understand their (Palestinians) views. Then the suicide bombings during religous ceremonies and shooting International Observers in their car-type events started happening more frequently while we put our people over there and the Saudi's have a good plan to help the sorry *******s. I just get the impression that they don't want peace. Whatever the case, their methods cannot be justified under any circumstance. Street thugs are street thugs no matter what religion or language. Oh well, if you can negotiate with them, annialate them.

ewallace
03-27-2002, 03:03 PM
When you have a young daughter you will most likely feel that way.

rubthebuddha
03-27-2002, 03:04 PM
black jack -- i was eating my lunch when i read that, and i lost my appetite and wanted to either beat something or just crawl into a corner.

but honestly, thanks for posting it. it got me thinking. a lot.

ghostdragon
03-27-2002, 03:28 PM
I'm also a father and the first thing I would do to such a MF when I caught him would be a metal file to his teeth.

After that, the dull bonesaw and Sahara desert sound like good follow ups.

It still amazes me that in the face of overwhelming evidence, people still feel a need to rehabilitate these animals and give them a second chance.

Colin
03-27-2002, 03:56 PM
ewallace, Any particular reason why you dislike Palestinians so much?

Surely they are the oppressed people, and the Israelis are the invaders & terrorists!

I don't condone the suicide bombers methods, but until the USA stops supporting that evil B.A.S.T.A.R.D Ariel Sharon what else can they do?

C.............

Black Jack
03-27-2002, 04:21 PM
Colin, even though that is not the topic of this post, that viewpoint is so full of ****.

Opressed people my ass, petty thugs is the better term, if you want to talk about them please open up another post topic, otherwise this one will not get any discussion, like it would every anyway but still.

GreyMystik
03-27-2002, 04:33 PM
actually i think colin has an interesting point

Budokan
03-27-2002, 06:07 PM
"I don't condone the suicide bombers methods, but until the USA stops supporting that evil B.A.S.T.A.R.D Ariel Sharon what else can they do?"

"actually i think colin has an interesting point"



Wow. A poignant post about Meagan's Law had degenerated into an anti-Semitic 'kill the Jews' thread.

Yep, I'm back on KFO...:rolleyes:

GreyMystik
03-27-2002, 06:42 PM
k guess i should clarify

the point i was referring to is Israel being the invaders and terrorists... NOT the "Sharon is a bastid" section :)


i'm so NOT an anti-semite

ewallace
03-27-2002, 06:57 PM
I'm also a father and the first thing I would do to such a MF when I caught him would be a metal file to his teeth.
Funny. My tooth just broke off while eating. Tomorrow is going to be a very very unconfortable day once they go in and get the rest of the tooth out.

Yajirobe
03-27-2002, 07:18 PM
that's a sick sad story. yeah little kids need to be supervised.

Black Jack
03-27-2002, 07:57 PM
Budokan,

I take responsibility for it going to the fishes, I should of kept my mouth shut on how I liked the guys post quote, talk about what COULD of been a good discussion topic on kids self defense for the fathers and mothers on this board, and a general lesson to anyone on how their are sick people out their, some even in their own backyards.

Hope it gets back on topic, this is one of those areas that I believe martial arts can be benefical, not in the traditional physical format but one where it takes a more aware approach, by teaching kids saftey guidlines, what to watch out for, and so forth.

wushu chik
03-27-2002, 08:09 PM
As a mom, I think that's probably my WORST fear. Walking outside my door and not being able to find my sons. I don't think I could handle that. This is the type of story that makes me want to NEVER let my children outside to play. But, how fair is that to them? Mine are 2 & 4. We live in a quiet little neighborhood. Kinda like the one in that story. My kids are chatterboxes. Josh has always been the kind of kid that talks to EVERYONE. Even though he's been warned, told, taught, whatever you want to call it, hes an extremely trusting child. So, what's a mom to do? This is what I do. When they go outside, so do I. If I HAVE to go into the house for something, I make sure that they are close enough so that I can hear them at all times. If i don't hear them, I check as soon as it happens. Bodhi, my 2 year old, he doesn't talk to ANYONE...but it doesn't mean that they can't just grab him, right?? That's what parental supervision is for. I may be totally an@l in this, but I know where my kids are at ALL times. There have been times that I have lost track of them, and they have wondered to a neighbors house, and I have flipped out. But, I have always "found" them right after. In short...I guess you can't watch them 100% of the time because they are so d@mn quick! But, you sure as h3ll can try!!! I feel totally sorry for this lady, but hopefully SOMEBODY will learn from her misfortune.

Black Jack
03-27-2002, 08:24 PM
Do schools still teach basic awareness classes to the kids, when I was in elementary and middle school, they had this. The basic stuff, if someone calls and your parents are not home, the kids should only tell them that their parents are home but they can not come to the phone right now, don't answer the door to strangers, don't take rides from strangers, try to remeber the color of the vehicle that approached them, tell a parent or trusted teacher at once, have a code word for people sent to pick them up if its an emergency, report strange people, be aware of their body and what is and what is not appropriate, stuff like that.

I don't have any kids, I don't even know if I will ever have any, but I have a god child, nieces, nephews and so forth. IMHO their are a LOT of piece of **** parents out their, the kind that just craps out another kid for a check or to make a clone because they feel lonely, which makes their children easier targets for these types of predators.

scotty1
03-28-2002, 04:11 AM
If anyone would like to continue the Israel/Palestine discussion, I'm about to start a thread on it now.

guohuen
03-28-2002, 07:58 AM
Pedophiles are the worst vermin on the planet. They have less than a 5 per cent recovery rate. As a former correctional officer I have had to deal with this kind of scum. These creatures are sociopaths that are just about beyond any redemption exept for perhaps divine intervention or using them as fertilizer. We had one cretin that was busted with boxes of hundreds of pornographic photos of neighborhood children. Literally dozens and dozens of children from his neighborhood. This f*cksticks son and another boy killed my friend Richard's daughter Mellisa to see exactly how much torture a human could take before they died. Mellisa was 12. Her friend that survived was 11. The animals that did this to them were 14 and 15 and were charged as juveniles.
If you are a pedoplile and you are reading this, kill yourself now!

scotty1
03-28-2002, 08:01 AM
That's one of the most disturbing things I have heard in a long time. I'm really sorry for your friend.

guohuen
03-28-2002, 08:48 AM
Yeah, they wrote a book and made a movie about it. I haven't read the book or seen the movie and have a mental block about the name. My friend spent four months in a phyciatric ward to keep him from killing these punks. One of them is out as far as I know, his name is louis hamlin jr. and he would be about 36 now. The other piece of shiite, jamie savage was murdered somewere out west after having been in and out of prison and killing two more people. (that they know of) I accually ran into the savage cretin at the vermont state hospital when I worked there and had the other piece of shiite's dad locked up in the sex offenders unit at the chittendon community corrrectional center in Burlington Vt. when I worked there. Anyone that says I lack self control has no idea!

wufupaul
03-28-2002, 11:26 AM
I knew a psychologist that counseled sex offenders, and he came across child molesters quite frequently. Sex offenders are required to go through counseling, and he was one of the counselors that they spoke with. He said that no matter what sort of improvements they were showing, they usually would think that there was nothing wrong with their thoughts and feelings, or, if they admitted it was wrong, they said they couldn't do anything about it. He was paid alot of money(around $150 an hour), mostly out of pocket(So the sex offender's counseling records wouldn't show up on their medical transcripts). He said that even with his training, he left work every day feeling sickened that people like that could exist in this world. He said he wouldn't be able to do it forever, it would just tear him apart too much.